I am looking to buy a new kayak and have been looking at the Ascend 12T and the Pescador 12 pretty extensively. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Why not share it with other kayak anglers? I figured the 2015 model would be perfect for me. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. Dec 8, 2016 #9. Arrives before Christmas. And a few other upgrades as well. Contact Us All content provided by YakAngler.com is copy written and any use, without express written consent of Yakangler, is a violation of applicable copyright and or trademark laws. Fishing that pass in a yak just sounds like a bad idea to me. 90. Close. Outdoorsman. re: Ascend FS12T vs Vibe Sea Ghost 130 Posted by The Last Coco on 9/11/15 at 1:20 am to Ric Flair For less than the cost of the vibe, get the Feel Free Moken 14 - $780 . Can't say for sure, i've never been in the FS12t. B. B. 128T Yak-Power Sit-On Kayak. I got the FS12T. A removable … 77 lbs, This post was edited on 12/11 at 11:55 am. We are proud to offer a wide variety of Island Hopper and Torqeedo kayak motors, motor mounts, trolling motor/mount combos, and transom-mount motors designed to fit Ascend S10 and H12 Sit-in and FS10T, FS12T, and FS128T Sit-On-Top fishing kayaks. The Ascend 128T Sit-on-Top Kayak adds to its innovative design with open-deck access and customization options unlike any other stand-up kayak on the market. BassinNCstyle. Save the earth. Rockwall, Texas. New Fishing Kayak. A versatile design that's great for both beginning paddlers and hardcore kayak anglers, the FS12T Sit-On-Top Angler Kayak from Ascend® delivers great features and performance. Joined: Apr 2014. Great boat, built like a tank. More support for area in front of the seat. It is notably cheaper than many of its competitors. This kayak is no longer manufactured and is only available on the used market. The Ascend 128T Sit-on-Top Kayak adds to its innovative design with open-deck access and customization options unlike any other stand-up kayak on the market. The FS12T doesn't track that great. This video is about Ascend FS 12T Review from Bass Pro Shops. Recessed bow and stern open storage areas with flush-mounted bungees provide endless accessorizing options, while the Yak-Power system brings a wiring harness, master controller, and 3 strategically placed power plugs. Join the ascend kayak owners group on Facebook they have lots of knowledge over there and are very active. The 12T has 2 rod holders vs 4 on the 128T. Made in the USA! u/Polkdaddy84. And while the included scupper plugs are nice, some competing models like the Vibe Sea Ghost 110 also come with a paddle and more custom options like the ability to install a fishfinder. The sit-on-top hybrid kayak has a high weight capacity of 350 lbs, perfect for withstanding any fishing gear you’re planning to bring along. D10 FS10 H10 H12 D10T 10T 12T 128T Yak-Power Available Colors Red/Black Camo Desert Storm Camo Red Camo Camo Desert Storm Purple/Black Titanium Titanium Titanium Desert Storm Desert Storm White/Black Lime Lime White/Black Titanium Seating Seat included X X X X X X X X Fore & a base adjustment X X X X X Backrest adjustment X X X X X X X X Height adjustment X Adjustment strap … Cons - no removable seat, less stable, cheaper construction. I'm happy with it. Ascend 12T VS Perception Pescador 12 #12295576 06/15/17 03:42 PM: Joined: Apr 2014. Read reviews. Give Gift; Back to Top; Post by 3spots on May … I purchased the Ascend FS128T in February of 2014 and have owned it since then. What are your thoughts on the Ascend 10t and 12t? Share Followers 1. Ascend FS12 or FS12T Discussion in 'Kayaking, Kayak Fishing, Canoeing, Canoe Racing' started by man vs. fish, Apr 18, 2013. I'm looking at these two specifically cause they are in my price range, really unsure if I can fit a 12 ft on my car, it's a sub compact car. If you like to stand and fish, it's great for that. Ascend 128T Yak-Power Sit-On Kayak Review. Close. 1 of 2 Go to page. Dec 8, 2016 #9. Ascend FS12T Reviews - Ascend | Buyers' Guide | Paddling.com By BassinNCstyle, July 16, 2014 in Bass Boats, Canoes, Kayaks and more. Mainly because of weight. Read reviews. Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting. Outdoorsman. Select Post; Deselect Post; Link to Post; Member. All Is Its in my price range, and has everything I need. document.getElementById('cloak1961').innerHTML = ''; Its in my price range, and has everything I need. Ascend 128T Sit on Top Kayak - $485 (The Lakes Surfside Beach) ... 2017 Ascend FS12T Sit-On-Top (Camo) To create the 12T, ASCEND® designers took our most-popular sit-on-top model and redesigned it to be even more stable, functional and comfortable. Average weight w/seat: 96 lbs. I like the layout on the FS128T much more. The sit-on-top hybrid kayak has a high weight capacity of 350 lbs, perfect for withstanding any fishing gear you’re planning to bring along. Pescador 12: Pros - faster, great reviews, lighter, has good amenities, cheaper. 350 lbs capacity. I just got the fs12T and have yet to put it in the water but I too saw that the 'advantages' that the 128t had over the 12t were lacking and not worth the extra $200. $29.90 $ 29. trick worms 100 trick worms 100 Short Fish; Members; 100 401 posts; My PB: Between 5-6 lbs Favorite Bass: Largemouth Report post; Posted April 1, 2016. Ascend 12T VS Perception Pescador 12 #12295576 06/15/17 03:42 PM: Joined: Apr 2014. Go. I don't think it's necessarily the added weight of the yak that makes it difficult, I think the bulkiness. Ascend 12T VS Perception Pescador 12 #12295576 06/15/17 03:42 PM: Joined: Apr 2014. There's 3 type of people in this world: Those who can count and those who can't. Posts:112 Thank you received: 20 Points:1128. document.getElementById('cloak1961').innerHTML += '' + addy1961+'<\/a>'; And while the included scupper plugs are nice, some competing models like the Vibe Sea Ghost 110 also come with a paddle and more custom options like the ability to install a fishfinder. Posts: 152. The ascend is a big slow yak plenty of storage but I would recommend spending a couple hundred more for a more reputable kayak Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . I am really interested in one of these two yak's but just cant decide if i want the sit in or the sit on top. 6. A single kayak won’t always give you all the necessary tools you need. 10 comments . After much thought, research, and a number of sketches I came up with a prototype. weight capacity: 350 lbs. I had a Ascend and I was really excited to have it until I did own it. Select Post; Deselect Post; Link to Post; Member. It's only 8" longer and 2" wider, but it looks like a lot more. 9 months ago. Size: 12'. B. briancooper OP. I have the 128t. For stability, this features our advanced tunnel design with a wide transom and flared bow sections. OP. Joined: Apr 2014. The 12T's seat is stationary while the 128T's move 360 degrees. Amazon's Choice for ascend kayak accessories. Ascend Kayak 28T Vs 12T?? You can't use the front rod holders, not sure why they are there. I can carry my Pescador all day and have no problems, but the FS128t was a pita and I couldn't really carry it by myself. OP. Apr 28, 2015. Dec 8, 2016 #9. SanfordGoPro Member. May 11, 2015 #21. Anything major, NO. Quote. I am looking to buy a new kayak and have been looking at the Ascend 12T and the Pescador 12 pretty extensively. Apr 18, 2013 #1 . Buddy has the 12t and i have the 128t and they both get a little wet inside. For the money you can't go wrong. Rockwall, Texas. Dec 8, 2016 #9. Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. The ascend is a big slow yak plenty of storage but I would recommend spending a couple hundred more for a more reputable kayak Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk . It is also heavier so keep that in mind when transporting, dragging or portaging. Photos und Informationen zu diesem Boot ansehen oder nach mehr Ascend … B. It comes with a Yak-Power System with three power plugs throughout, an edge for lovers of overnight fishing trips. Ascend 128T. 133X Yak-Power Sit-On. Max. May 11, 2015 #21. Ascend 128T Yak-Power Sit-On (White/Black) kaufen Alcolu Vereinigte Staaten. Also weighs as much as one. The Ascend 128T Sit-on-Top Kayak adds to its innovative design with open-deck access and customization options unlike any other stand-up kayak on the market. Ascend FS12T vs Ocean Prowler 13 for first Kayak of inexperienced newbie; If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. I don't like those rod holders as much as the ones I put on my crate anyway, and preferred my home built anchor trolley as well. Posts: 3,755 Pescador or Ascend FS12T May 28, 2014 12:00:32 GMT -5 bigredobsession likes this. If you prefer sit-on-top kayaks, the Ascend 128T is your best bet. Size: 12'. B. briancooper OP. Joined: Apr 2014. Added foam matting in the standing area which is a mod I'm looking to do. Ascend 12T seat modification 4 years 2 months ago #1. You can put in a little … So I did research. Im pretty sure I am going with the fs12t. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. June 24, 2018 By Julian Hooks. var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; It's definately a beast to paddle if it's windy and you're trying to cross semi open water. So I did research. 9 months ago. That’s why the Ascend 128T kayak has ample room for custom modifications. I couldn't find anyone who had any horrible problems with it. I can agree on that. It's super stable. 1 year ago. Quote. ABN Universal Kayak Carrier – Trolley for Carrying Kayaks, Canoes, Paddleboards, Float Mats, and Jon Boats . B. briancooper OP. What are your thoughts on the Ascend 10t and 12t? Joined: Apr 2014. Posts: 155. Sometimes, the underlying designs and structure and tool placement might not satisfy you. Posts: 3,755 Pescador or Ascend FS12T May 28, 2014 12:00:32 GMT -5 bigredobsession likes this. Posts:112 Thank you received: 20 Points:1128. I then saw the 128T, and fell in love with the idea of a swivel seat. This kayak is no longer manufactured and is only available on the used market. Thread starter 167WhiteTAIL; Start date Apr 28, 2015; 1; 2; Next. That's a steal for that boat and it is a much higher level of fit and finish than the fs12t. briancooper. I'm looking at these two specifically cause they are in my price range, really unsure if I can fit a 12 ft on my car, it's a sub compact car. 6-Carrier Kayak Trailer. Rockwall, Texas. User Info. Did you know Torqeedo also makes kayak motors? Hard to beat it for the price. For me, fishing in the southern louisiana marsh, it's perfect. If you have any questions or comments please let us know. It was purchased mainly because of the large deck space, the stability, and it was the lowest priced kayak that had a raised seat. 1 year ago. Ascend FS 128T Vs FS12T - Which one would you buy?? The Ascend 128T Yak-Power Sit-On Kayak is jam-packed with features that you won’t find on another fishing kayak for this price. If you want to buy a used 12T you can search online using Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and Ebay or phone apps such as Letgo or Offerup. Added foam matting in the standing area which is a mod I'm looking to do. Save your money and get something else! On a trip to Basspro, an Ascend FS12T caught my eye. briancooper. MSRP $649.99 Used Price Range - $ - $525 You really can'y go wrong with either. OP. ascend h12 vs 12t Sign in to follow this . Thread starter 167WhiteTAIL; Start date Apr 28, 2015; Prev. I wonder how much tracking difference there is between the two. FREE Shipping by Amazon. I'll post pics when I get it! Hey, I'm new to the forum as well as kayak fishing. Thread starter #1. 167WhiteTAIL Senior Member. If you have owned a 12T, please leave a star review along with your pros and cons. I was looking at these … 4.7 out of 5 stars 297. Posts: 155. The 128 could use rails, a better paddle holder, and rigid handles on the sides. thanks everyone. Just a quick walk through on my 2017 Ascend 128T YakPower modifications. share. I've paddled the FS128T in bays, marshes, lakes, rivers, bayous, and creeks. Ascend 12T seat modification 4 years 2 months ago #1. If you can park close by and its an easy spot to launch, then you might not need a cart. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. Posts: 152. https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/ascend-128t-sit-on-top-desert-storm-kayak Get it as soon as Tue, Dec 22. What are your thoughts on the Ascend 10t and 12t? The Ascend 12T Sit-On-Top Kayak even works perfectly with the optional RedHead® waterfowl blind, making this high-performance Ascend kayak the perfect option for duck hunting in addition to all your angling and adventuring demands. D10 FS10 H10 H12 D10T 10T 12T 128T Yak-Power Available Colors Red/Black Camo Desert Storm Camo Red Camo Camo Desert Storm Purple/Black Titanium Titanium Titanium Desert Storm Desert Storm White/Black Lime Lime White/Black Titanium Seating Seat included X X X X X X X X Fore & a base adjustment X X X X X Backrest adjustment X X X X X X X X Height adjustment X Adjustment strap … 4.7 out of 5 stars 297. North Central West Virgina ; fishermanbt; 50+ Posts! The Ascend 128T Kayak Modifications. 12T 16 128T Yak-Power 18 Kayak Overview 20 Performance Matrix 21 FEATURE INFORMATION Yak-Power Wiring 22 Accessory Rail(s) 23 Adjusting Foot Braces 24 Adjusting Seat (Sit-In Models) 25 Adjusting Seat (12T) 26 General Information 27 For service and after-market parts orders, please call ASCEND Customer Service at 417.873.5034. Outdoorsman. BassinNCstyle 8 Posted July 16, 2014. You have no notifications. OP. Pros & Cons. After ride the bull I vowed go never kayak fish unless I was in a hobie. Cons: Front rob holders unusable. The Ascend 12T is a decent backup kayak but that's all I recommend it used for. I installed a Minn Kota 55lb Enduramax trolling motor. Product Details. You get two large weather tight storage areas that will easily hold anything you’ll need for an entire day on the water. Because of the economics of the situation, and how much (or how little) I will be using it, the Ascend line seems like a lot of Kayak for the $$ (and I have … Give Gift; Back to Top; Post by 3spots on May … Modifications: Move rod holders. I have a 2017/2018 model,… Submitted by: Jfamyak on 6/12/2018 I have a 2017/2018 model, very few cons with this particular kayak. Settings Welcome, Bing [Bot] All caught up! Best Seller in Kayak Carts. It doesn't really bother me all that much because this is the only kayak I have ever been in. Amazon's Choice for ascend kayak accessories. The most important and significant modification you can make to your kayak is most probably the ability to … Some people probably prefer it though. Price also went up by about $50. The advanced tunnel design with a wide transom and flared bow sections brings a fishing kayak so stable, you can stand up and cast from it. Followers 2. ascend h12 vs 12t. YakAttack RotoGrip Paddle Holder, Track Mount - 2 Pack Bundle. Buddy has the 12t and i have the 128t and they both get a little wet inside. These 2 kayaks have essentially the same hull design with the only difference being 8 inches in length and 2 inches in width on the 128T. Buy a Jackson! I dont see spending an extra $200 on stuff I can add if I want to later on, ie the anchor trolley or pull up strap. Price also went up by about $50. Rockwall, Texas. As far as the weight, it's manageable. Posts: 155. I'm a smaller guy so I'm confident that I will not have any issue at all standing up. If you want to buy a used 12T you can search online using Craigslist, Facebook Marketplace, and Ebay or phone apps such as Letgo or Offerup. Cart would be easier at a busier launch where there's not a place to launch a yak away from everyone though. They are both good kayaks, just a little different features from one to the other. This is my first kayak, so I don't have anything to compare to. 4. Waters Fished: Salwater Flats; Saltwater Bays; Used: 7-15 trips. Rockwall, Texas. 77 pounds for the fs12t isnt THAT bad. 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